Тема: Scale
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...a Frodo-size table
with larger, Frodo-size props.

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l've got to look...

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...there.

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-For when he's standing?
-Yeah.

105
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l've got to look there
when Elijah's sitting.

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l don't have a look when he's
crouching at the beginning.

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We can go back and make sure
you've got that.

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Through camera, everything lines up.

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When you move to the other end,
it still lines up...

110
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...because that smaller table
and lan McKellen has moved slightly.

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lt's kind of fun to actually build
these things and see them in camera.

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l mean, it's wonderful.

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lt's fun to get dailies back
and the shot's done.

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lt worked pretty seamlessly and
everyone was amazed with the results.

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--in the fires of Mount Doom.

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Taken by lsildur
from the hand of Sauron himself.

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Another technique that we used
to create the sense of scale...

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...the differences between two actors
and whatnot, is scale composites.

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And that's where we shoot each actor
separately and then later...

120
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...put them together
and composite them into one.

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We use blue screen photography.
You do a pass on one actor...

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...with a camera closer to him, and the
smaller actor, you repeat that pass...

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...with the camera further away
against the blue screen...

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...and then composite those together.

125
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Or you could shrink one image
in the computer and composite it.

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-And me ax.
-And my ax.

127
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l'm the tallest of the Fellowship.
l'm 6'1 '', so there's this scale problem.

128
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l should be bigger than the Hobbits,
and yet not as tall as the Elf.

129
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ln a way it was very fortunate
John Rhys-Davies was cast as Gimli.

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His ratio in size to Elijah Wood
and Sean Astin...

131
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...and Billy Boyd and Dominic Monaghan
is actually correct.

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lf you're doing multipass composites
for the Hobbits and Gimli...

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...you could photograph them
at the same time.

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You'd only have to photograph
separately the humans:

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Gandalf, Sean Bean and Viggo Mortensen
in separate passes.

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lnstead of doing three passes,
you could get away with two passes.

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Nine companions.

138
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So be it.

139
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You shall be
the Fellowship of the Ring.

140
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Great!

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Where are we going?

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And when l first saw a completed bit
of the film...

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...which included a Hobbit and me,
lan Holm as Bilbo...

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...half my size apparently,
on screen, and me.

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lt was only halfway through that l
realized all our trickery had worked...

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...and that l had just accepted...

147
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...that he had been shrunk,
or that l had been magnified.

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My heart stopped for a moment
and l thought...

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...not for the first time:

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''We've made a very good film indeed.''

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Just tea, thank you.

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Some other techniques we used
were as complicated...

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...as a sophisticated stilt-walking
technique Richard Taylor's group devised.

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So that you could put people
into these big rig things...

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...and it would extend their legs.
They made oversized costumes...

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...and remote control hands
that were twice the normal size.

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They're worn
by very small performers...

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...who drive these big rigs around
by climbing inside them.

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These, we're gonna have tankards
to deal with.

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This is what l do.
This is a big rig character.

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Walking around in this
is challenging.

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lt's a little bit scary,
but we can handle that.

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You can never be ready
to jump off a cliff.

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You just have to take
a big breath and go for it.

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So when you go through
the streets of Bree...

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...there are big rigs used there.

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They could walk through the foreground
or the background...

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...and be much larger
than the Hobbits.

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Peter was really good
at knowing his shots...

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...and knowing if he's doing a shot
looking down in the bar...

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...and he has the Hobbits there, you
could have guys with big clothes on...

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...and big rubber hands walking by,
which sounds corny.

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You'd never do that
in a wide shot.

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But in a tight shot, you're only seeing
this much, and so--

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But it still gives you this feeling
that they're only 3'6'' tall.

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Finally, we also had to use
some scale doubles.

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We did a worldwide search for people
that were about <i>4</i>' tall...

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...and found a number of very
good people that have actually acted.

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You're hitting the mark
too much, Kiran.

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You say, ''lt's great to see you.''
And the jump.

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The hug is almost like a catch.

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lt's wonderful to see you, Gandalf!

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Their backs are to the camera. They're
far enough away to just wear wigs.

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ln some cases, they're wearing
prosthetic masks that are casts...

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...of the actor they're standing in for
that were done by Richard Taylor.

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A silicon slip-on mask. We've sculpted
exact copies of the lead actors...

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...and made small silicon masks of them
that our scale doubles will wear...

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...and achieve a number
of the more simply-got shots.

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For the wide shots, they would put our
outfits on, put masks of our faces on...

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...which was extremely bizarre,
and they would kind of do the action.

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And we've got Big Paul who was one
of our doubles...

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...who is over 7' tall.
Huge, but perfectly proportioned.

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Paul is sitting in one
of the oversized boats.

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We call him Tall Paul, which is
redundant because of how tall he is.

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So, l mean, he's-- Paul's gotta be
7' or more tall.

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He's 7'<i>2</i>''?
And he's doubling Aragorn.

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We used them very sparingly...

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...but they are part of the arsenal
that help us create this feeling...

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...of size perspective and ratio.

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We did use face replacement.
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